Oliver Nelson / Lou Donaldson

Back Talk

1976  ·  Chess (Jazz Masters Series) 2-ACMJ-404  ·  Stereo  ·  US  ·  2xLP, gatefold · 33 1/3 RPM

Pressing details

LabelChess (Jazz Masters Series)
Catalogue number2-ACMJ-404
Year1976
Mono / StereoStereo
CountryUS
Format2xLP, gatefold
Speed33 1/3 RPM
GenreJazz – Hard Bop/Soul-Jazz
ProducerEsmond Edwards
ConductorOliver Nelson
MusiciansSide 1/2 (recorded March 1964, Oliver Nelson session): Oliver Nelson (tenor sax, arranger/conductor), Phil Woods (alto sax, clarinet), Kenny Soderblom (alto sax, flute), Jerome Richardson (baritone sax, flute, alto flute), Robert Ashton (tenor sax, clarinet), Art Hoyle (trumpet), Eugene “Snooky” Young (trumpet), Roy Wiegand (trombone), Tony Studd (bass trombone), Patti Bown (piano), Ben Tucker (bass), Grady Tate (drums). Side 3/4 (recorded December 1964, Lou Donaldson session): Lou Donaldson (alto sax), Phil Woods (alto sax), Dave Burns (trumpet), Ernie Royal (trumpet), Bob Ashton (tenor sax), Danny Bank (baritone sax), Lloyd Mayers (organ), Richard Davis (bass), Grady Tate (drums), Oliver Nelson (arranger/conductor).

Matrix / Runout

Side A:  2ACMJ-40012-NO TR CR7176-1 1-1 PRC
Side B:  2ACMJ-40013-NO-1 1-1 TR CR7176 PRC
Side C:  2ACMJ-40014-NO-1 1-1 TR CR7176 PRC
Side D:  2ACMJ-40015-NO-1-1-1 TR CR7176 PRC

Condition

Cover
NM
Vinyl
NM

Variant chronology

1976 - US Chess 2ACMJ-404, Chess Jazz Masters Series gatefold 2LP  <- this copy
1984 - US Chess CH-2-9222, Chess Jazz Masters Series reissue
n.d. - Italy Chess GCH 2-6032 reissue

This Pressing

1976 US Chess Jazz Masters Series pressing (stereo) - 2ACMJ-404, flat-label, PRC stamp on every side, gatefold.

The Album

“Back Talk” is a 1976 compilation pairing two mid-1960s Cadet/Argo big-band sessions led by arranger-saxophonist Oliver Nelson and alto saxophonist Lou Donaldson, who never actually recorded together but whose work was packaged as a single double LP under Chess's ownership change. The first half draws on Nelson's 1964 Chicago date, cut at the height of his run as one of jazz's most in-demand arrangers following the success of “The Blues and the Abstract Truth,” showcasing his command of voicing a mid-sized horn section while still soloing on tenor. The second half comes from Donaldson's December 1964 New York session, arranged and conducted by Nelson himself, which found the veteran Blue Note-honed alto man working in a larger, more orchestrated setting than his usual soul-jazz combo format. Donaldson had already built his reputation through the late 1950s and early 1960s as one of the most reliably swinging, blues-rooted altoists to come out of the Charlie Parker lineage, a sound that helped define the soul-jazz movement. Nelson, meanwhile, stands as one of the era's most influential jazz composer-arrangers, equally comfortable with hard bop small groups and lush big-band writing, a skill he would carry into a prolific career scoring film and television. Critical attention to both source albums has tended to favor their original, individually conceived sequencing, but each has been valued by collectors as a snapshot of mid-1960s Chicago and New York studio jazz filtered through Nelson's arranging pen.

Tracklist

Side 1

1. Hobo Flats 4:12
2. Post No Bills 5:28
3. A Bientot 3:44
4. Three Plus One 3:24

Side 2

1. Take Me With You 5:25
2. Daylie's Double 4:00
3. Teenie's Blues 4:05
4. Laz-ie Kate 3:59

Side 3

1. Tippin' In 4:50
2. L.D. Blues 3:10
3. Days Of Wine & Roses 4:25
4. Ignant Oil 4:50

Side 4

1. Rough House Blues 6:30
2. Back Talk 4:01
3. Huffin' 'N Puffin' 5:30

The Label

All four sides carry the same flat Chess Jazz Masters Series label: an orange/yellow field crossed by a teal band, a pink circular emblem with a brown abstract fan motif at upper left, the CHESS wordmark set into the teal band, the stepped-block “Chess Jazz Masters Series” logo at top centre, and “A Division of All Platinum Record Group” arced around the rim - no deep groove is present on this label design. This is the label Chess used for its mid-1970s “Jazz Masters Series” reissue/compilation line after the company had passed to All Platinum Records, and the ℗ line reads Platinum Record Co., Inc. 1976 rather than the earlier Chess/GRT or Cadet credits. The runout on every side carries the PRC plant mark, pressing the full set as a single run at the PRC Richmond, Indiana plant rather than split across stampers or plants. Because “Back Talk” was assembled in 1976 from two 1964 sessions, this All Platinum-era label is the only label design under which the compilation itself was issued — it is not a later re-pressing of an earlier Chess label for this title.

Fidelity

The lacquers were cut at Trutone Mastering Labs and pressed by PRC in Richmond, Indiana, a mid-1970s budget/reissue-line pressing rather than an audiophile cut. Collectors generally rate the original mid-1960s Cadet/Argo pressings of the source albums as sonically preferable, since this compilation represents a later-generation mastering assembled for a reissue series rather than from the original session tapes under studio supervision. No audiophile or specialist reissue of this specific compilation exists, so this 1976 Chess pressing stands as the only vinyl edition of the pairing, below the original individual-album pressings in the fidelity hierarchy.

Notes

This is the 1976 Chess “Jazz Masters Series” compilation pairing Oliver Nelson's 1964 big-band session with Lou Donaldson's 1964 nonet date, issued as a stereo gatefold double LP. Flat orange/teal labels crediting “A Division of All Platinum Record Group” and ℗ Platinum Record Co., Inc. 1976 place it in Chess's mid-1970s reissue-series design. The runouts carry 2ACMJ-4001X-NO matrix prefixes with TR and CR7/76 mastering codes; a PRC plant etch appears in the runout on sides three and four, while sides one and two carry no plant mark. No earlier pressing of this specific compilation exists; later reissues appear as the 1984 Chess CH-2-9222 edition and an undated Italian Chess pressing.